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Five Easy Ways to Fly First Class ... Without Paying for It

by Sarah Pascarella, SmarterTravel.com Staff - April 27, 2009
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These days, most of us resign ourselves to flying in coach. It's the cheapest way to travel by air, and if we have to put up with cramped seating, minimal legroom, and reduced (or nonexistent) amenities—well, at least it's a relatively cheap way to travel on a short-haul flight. But for longer flights, the idea of a first- or business-class upgrade becomes more attractive. Bigger seats, more legroom, and several meal options? Yes, please.

"Your vacation essentially starts when you board the aircraft," says Matthew Bennett, CEO of FirstClassFlyer.com. "A first-class seat can help you absorb jet lag and get over all the nuisances and grumblings that you inevitably experience flying economy class."

For most of us, though, the high price of first class is what keeps us squeezed in at the back of the plane rather than resting comfortably up front. That's where upgrades come in. Here are some great tips for getting a comfier seat on your next flight.

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Rack up Miles

The best way to cash in your frequent flyer miles is to apply them toward an upgrade. You get more bang for your buck, and availability is generally more plentiful. "If there isn't availability for a free seat, there may be availability for an elite upgrade," says Bennett. "Especially now with capacity cuts and flight reductions, there are fewer economy seats, but a surplus of first- and business-class seats. Sometimes people will design a trip around economy class availability, rather than looking for upgrade availability."

Sites such as ExpertFlyer take some of the guesswork out of finding an available seat. You can track what's on offer, both for upgrades and economy seats, and access specific prices, routes, and other flight information.

You should also take advantage of mileage-accruing credit cards to build up your mileage base through everyday purchases. Retail and travel promotions often give you double miles, while cross-provider offers (from hotels and rental car companies, for example) will often net you even more miles. You'll get the requisite number of miles needed for an upgrade much faster than by flying alone.

Look for Promos

You might be surprised to learn that airlines occasionally offer first-class seats at a bargain price. Sign up for your preferred airline's email newsletter alert service to get early notice when seats go on sale. SmarterTravel also publishes a frequent flyer newsletter that lists the latest deals and promotions.

Be a savvy consumer when taking part in airline promotions. "America West ran a promotion before merging with US Airways. If you called a special number and asked to be in the Silver Elite Frequent Flyer program, they put you in immediately in the hopes that you would fly enough to earn points to become a loyal customer," says Rick Brown, founder of Skoovy.com. "You had 90 days to fly six segments to retain silver level for the year. Once you had silver, you simply had to call America West a day before your flight, and if first-class seats were available, you had the upgrade."

Research Inventory Online

Upgrades, like any travel purchase, require some legwork before you commit. "Deals and opportunities lie in the fine print," says Bennett. "Disappointment usually comes from [customers] reading an airline's ad and not venturing down to the fine print ... There can be major discrepancies in fare and product offerings from one carrier to the next."

If seat pitch, width, and legroom are important to you, compare each airline's first- or business-class product on SmarterTravel's sister site, SeatGuru. Sometimes even the same airline can use different plane models on the same route, so be sure to find out which aircraft your desired flight will be using before you book the upgrade.

In addition, you need to find out if the ticket you're planning to purchase is even eligible for an upgrade. "The number one mistake people make is buying a discounted ticket and then searching for ways to upgrade," says Brown. "It will be difficult to impossible [to upgrade] with a fare class that is full of restrictions."

Follow the Discounts

Airlines frequently offer a plethora of upgrade opportunities with every new route or seasonal itinerary. Browse around on your preferred carrier's website to see the latest upgrade offerings. Also look for airlines with a significant presence in the region you wish to visit for increased upgrade availability.

In addition, search out routes with plenty of available flights from a wide variety of carriers. "The general rule of thumb is the less competition an airline has, the less likely they are going to be generous with upgrades," says Brown. "Try finding an upgrade certificate with Qantas. They don't exist ... [But] in the U.S. where competition is fierce and everyone is trying to survive, you will find numerous carriers trying to entice passengers with certificates, incentives, and upgrade possibilities."

You may also find a good deal right at the airport. If you notice your flight isn't full, ask if there's an opportunity to upgrade. "[When] checking in at a kiosk, oftentimes upgrades are available for purchase," says Bennett. "They're not always cheap, but they're cheaper than paying full fare."

Be Creative

Sometimes, approaching an upgrade creatively, like a puzzle to be solved, can result in new tactics that deliver a first-class seat.

"Most experts will tell you that staying loyal to one carrier is a good idea, and they are correct, but also consider which one to use," says Brown. "Let's assume you fly a lot with American and their rules state that in order to upgrade to first class you need 25,000 miles. However, there is a loophole: If you join Cathay Pacific's frequent flyer program, Asia Miles, you may only need 15,000 miles for an upgrade on one of their partner airlines, and since American and Cathay are both part of the oneworld alliance, you may find yourself upgrading a lot faster than your [fellow travelers]."

Know What Doesn't Work

Finally, it's also important to know which upgrade strategies aren't successful anymore.

Many people still strive for elite status with their preferred airline, but don't get past the low-tier level. If you're going to go elite, make sure it's going to be worth your while. "There are too many flyers with low-tier elite status; there are too many people in line, even with the excess inventory," says Bennett. "So unless you're going beyond that level for elite status, [it] may be hard to get an upgrade."

Asking for an upgrade at the gate probably won't get you to the front of the plane, either. "Asking politely will do nothing more than annoy the ticket agent," says Brown. "They have heard every story in the book and are typically not authorized to upgrade anyone unless they are a frequent flyer with status or are willing to pay for an upgrade."

Do you have any tried-and-true strategies for snagging an upgrade? Share your expertise by submitting a comment below!

 
 
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  • Fritz - April 27, 2009

    I've found that if I volunteer for a bump, in addition to the travel vouchers I often can convince the agent to put us up front. On our best "bump day" our family of four got $3,000 in vouchers, meals, hotel room and first class seats, all for getting to our destination three hours later than planned. Seems everyone else on the plane was going for the Daytona 500, and that 3 hours would have meant missing the start of the race. We weren't going to the race, so the incentives meant our next three trips were paid for!

  • jane - April 27, 2009

    Greedy much? No wonder the rest of us have to pay so much for tickets. Why not just be a decent person and help someone out? People like that make me sick.

  • adiba - April 27, 2009

    If you are traveling alone, there is a good chance you can be upgraded.If the economy class is full and there are people or families who are complaining that they who would like to sit together,you might be removed and put in first/business class. This happened to my brother. Also if you are traveling alone and you keep on complaining ,you might be bumped up. Saw this happen last time I flew international. The lady next to me kept on complaining that her monitor is not working and she will not leave her aisle seat for a middle seat. To avoid more ruckus ,she was sent to business class.So learn how to disable the monitor(just kidding)next time! Last,but not least, if you have a tall,large framed person with you, you might be upgraded. Five of us were upgraded to business class because our son in law could not easily fit into a economy class seat.So it may be a good idea to take a person of large stature with you!!

  • chuck - April 27, 2009

    I agree with the point about elite status. Having status which enables check in at First / Business counters has helped me get free upgrades a couple of times in the past year (both internal and transatlantic). The other tip seems to be not expecting it and not asking for it! Sounds counter intuitive but I think being yourself with the check in staff goes down well - if you naturally click with them, you may be lucky!

  • Will - April 27, 2009

    jane - what an uncalled for comment. Airlines try to maximize their revenue by intentionally overbooking flights, knowing people will have to be bumped who had reservations. What's wrong with trying to extract the maximum reward for being the person bumped? If the airlines don't like it, then don't overbook flights.

  • AtroFlier - April 27, 2009

    Blame the airline, not the traveler. if you flew more often, you'd know hte airlines offer this stuff, it's not stuff that people DEMAND. And the whole problem arises because the airlines overbook flights. So on a plane with 150 seats, they might sell 160 seats. Does that make you sick? Do you think the airlines are greedy?

  • slsk2005 - April 27, 2009

    That isn't greedy. The airlines overbooked. All Fritz did was volunteer and get compensated for it. He made sure other people got to the race on time. The airline paid for their overbooking, not the consumer!

  • islandgirl76 - April 27, 2009

    What's greedy about it? Being business savvy, CLEVER, and resourceful does not always equal greed. And how is this taking advantage of someone else? If you're willing to be bumped - and WAIT three or more hours in the luxurious and comfortable airport accommodations - kudos to you! You deserve the freebies. And four people who were on stand-by for Fritz's flight actually got to get on. I bet they were thrilled! Sounds as though Fritz helped them out with his willingness to be patient and persevering. It probably didn't cost the airlines too much; they have agreements with hotels and services that don't cost them anything. If it did, you can be sure that they would NOT have been so generous. By partnering with other services, they get happy, repeat customers. It's called tit-for-tat, or bartering - an old concept and practice. Jane, your comment smacks of envy. Very unbecoming and revealing.

  • freeflyer - April 27, 2009

    What's greed got to do with it on the part of the savy consumer who was just working within the bounds the AIRLINE set up? Do you think most airlines care about the "decent thing" when they overbook seats? That's what causes most bumping. Is that just corporate greed or is it clever asset mangement? The airlnes do what they need to to stay afloat and hopefully earn money in a tight economy. The smart consumer recognizes this and uses the system to their best advantage is securing flights/perks. Why come on a website dedicated to such intelligence (SmarterTravel...duh) and trash someone who is explaining an example of the very thing people are looking for. The article was about securing upgrades without paying for them. If you are not interested, go somewhere else!

  • Bus Driver - April 27, 2009

    Besides volunteering your seat(s) on a flight and dropping the hint that it would be nice to upgrade to 1st. as a "one hand washes the other" gesture, it is a lot easier if you are dressed well and look as if you belong in 1st class. Snobishness is alive and well and sometimes helps. Also, "red eyes" usually have more availability if time isn't a factor.

  • Lynn - April 27, 2009

    Jane, people like you make me sick. You're just mad because Fritz got something you didn't. Blame the airlines. They overbook the flights and then have to beg people to take later flights. Fritz is being pretty savvy to negotiate the kind of package he got. Not everyone gets that much and most people don't get anything. Fritz isn't the reason you pay so much for your tickets. The airlines are. Do your research and find a cheaper fare. They're out there if you look.

  • Mark - April 27, 2009

    Greedy? If the airline is offering to bump you and give you perks, then that isn't being greedy. Trust me, the airline did pretty well on Daytona weekend - they probably overbooked at very high fares.

  • azuri7 - April 27, 2009

    BS...you would have done the same thing, Jane. Good for you Fritz.

  • dakotahblu - April 27, 2009

    ON the return leg of a BA flight last year I got sent up to world travelor plus from my coach ticket.(What a treat) I have no idea why. I didn't have enough points to earn it. I did the seat check in late from Dublin, before i flew on Ryanair back to the Uk to fly home to IAD. The flight was pretty full. I couldn't see one empty seat in coach. The only thing I can think is that there were no seats left in coach. After 2 1/2 weeks of living out of a backpack, that little luxury made my day. So THANK YOU BA :) for whatever reason that happened.

  • amber - April 27, 2009

    that's just the thing...they were helping someone out by being bumped to a later flight...and for their 'inconvenience' they were accomodated...it has nothing to do with airfare for anyone else...i'm often in a position to be bumped and i'm usually in no hurry to get to/from my destination...it's a win/win situation

  • karen - April 27, 2009

    how can you find "deals" to upgrade using ff miles?? ie going to st thomas, vi

  • M Brown - April 27, 2009

    Great deal Fitz. I volunteered to get bumped on a trans atlantic flight twice and for the food vouchers, miles and hotel stays. Great deal since my company paid and I got to keep the miles for personal travel. If the flight looks full, volunteer to be bumped. It's worth it.

  • richard - April 27, 2009

    Dear Jane, Judgemental much? Seems you need to calm down...you were reading about how to get upgrades so I guess you'd like a deal too. And it was the Airline that overbooked not Fritz...I find judgemental people make everyone sick.

  • suzqz - April 27, 2009

    Why is it when the doors of the plane are closed and no more passengers are boarding, the airlines still insist you pay an additional fee for an upgrade to sit in preferred seats if available (i.e. first class, extra leg room rows, etc...)?

  • lj - April 27, 2009

    Jane...apparently you haven't been on a flight that was too full. I have been on a few...and the airline is the one who hands out the free flights to someone for waiting. That IS helping others out, and you are thanked in the form of free flights. The flight gets held up until someone finally comes forward to take the bump. Makes much more sense to tell them right up front to save the other passengers time and actually the airlines money since the longer it takes for someone to come forward, they add more to the package. Trust me, they are VERY grateful to get people who are flexible. I have only taken the bump once and it was mainly to stay in DC for 5 more hours to allow my kids to see their dad for longer....had nothing to do with the free flights.....but it was nice.

  • Military - April 27, 2009

    I believe that all the airlines should consider making first clas when availble to us military retirees. Most of us served this country for thirty years & particpated in at least three wars. We are a fading class of people. We do not receive retirement pay as the exec's do yet if it were not for us you would not even exist. Thank You for your consideration...Military Retiree

  • Anonymous - April 27, 2009

    How does the gate agent know if you are a frequent /loyalty flier thar may qulify for an available upgrade. What / where is the code o on your ticket?

  • mcfrenzy - April 27, 2009

    Fritz, I'm with you! Having traveled many million miles, I always ask, in a nice way, what they can do for me. It's their decision to say no, not mine. And, if the airline overbooked, knowing that a major event was occurring that day, they assumed part of the liability anyway. And, I too, have often offered to volunteer my window seat to unaccompanied minors,as I am usually in the first three rows. It keeps the child close to the attendant, and I don't mind an hour or two in a less great seat. That consideration has gotten me upgrades on all but the full first flights. The other flights where I sit somewhere less desirable, I put in my karma bank.

  • Brandon - April 27, 2009

    I can't say I agree with Jane as her logic is flawed in assuming that we are paying more money for our airline tickets as a result of some people being generous enough to step aside for others. That statement just doesn't make sense, but I am glad that there are those of you who willingly step aside for others, even if there isn't any reward involved in the act.

  • utah mom - April 27, 2009

    What's with Jane? They needed someone to make concessions, and Fritz did it. I don't feel he was greedy at all. If it was beyond what the airline wanted to do, they would not have done it. How about all the times you fly and things come up and there is not JUST compensation? Bunch of things happened on our last trip. I asked for meal vouchers. Got some. Others didn't know and, of course, they are NOT offered. I started cluing others in that they needed to ask.

  • Kay - April 27, 2009

    Oh, for pete's sake, "jane"! You just sound envious that you don't have the initiative or the smarts it takes to work the system! This isn't the kind of stuff that makes "us have to pay so much for tickets". The airlines play games with their fares, use tricks in their ads to try to outsmart consumers, and they certainly aren't giving anything away on a regular basis, so I think it's great when someone figures out how to play their game! Congrats, Fritz!

  • Sarah - April 27, 2009

    Please, that's not greed, that's savvy. The airline was greedy when they sold more tickets for the flight than they had seats. I'm sure the number of times they do that and get away with it means they're still coming out ahead. Way to go, Fritz!

  • HJ - April 27, 2009

    So you would rather be stuck at the airport on an oversold plane than be rescued by a willing (greedy per your definition) passenger. Airline won't let you swap your boarding passes with someone in need.

  • Carole - April 27, 2009

    Greed has nothing to do with it, airlines are overbooking planes and I for one would rather make my flight on time and let people like Fritz get awesome deals, the airlines are the greedy ones to sell more seats than they have. Some people just don't GET it.

  • Tony - April 27, 2009

    Jane, get off your high horse and back to reality. Fritz only volunteered, she/he didn't force the airline to bump them and give them the incentives. I'm sure if the airline offered the same incentives to you, you would have declined. NOT!!!

  • Sarah S. - April 27, 2009

    Greedy? No. Tha't just how the Airline Bump game is played. The Bumpees don't travel is there aren't any available seats, and the airlines have blocks of hotel rooms at each airport. The vouchers they give are pretty minimal, so that's just subsistance. The cost to the airlines is already built in, so you might as well as enjoy it!

  • budget conscious - April 27, 2009

    Volunteering to be bumped doesn't make someone else's ticket price higher.

  • George - April 27, 2009

    Air travel in the USA is still a huge bargain. It's because we pay so little that we get so little in the way of amenities. DISCLAIMER: I buy my own tickets, and I don't work for any airlines, or even personally know anyone who works for an airline. I might gripe about the price, but there's nothing morally wrong with taking advantage of an opportunity. Fritz accepted the inconvenience, and the airline saved a bunch of money and was able to get their passengers there on time for the race. Getting to that race was important to those other passengers, and they were paying for the convenience. If you want to blame someone, blame the airline for overbooking a flight they knew would have zero no-shows.

  • Auburn - April 27, 2009

    Help--my family has experienced unforseen tragedies including a son with a chronic illness and both parents lost our jobs. Have been trying to request a deal or charity on arilines so we can enjoy a break (same with hotels) but unless we're a 'charitable organization ' which can provide free advertising for the airlines, no options. Any idea (want to go to NYC from SMF). Thanx Auburn

  • jbaker2379 - April 27, 2009

    we walked up to the check-in kiosk in san diego in jan/2009 and was asked if we wanted two 1st class seats @ $150 per. since we already scored atwo very cheap RT tickets, we thought it was a deal. plus we saved a little on not paying for checked bags. 2 of the last three times we flew, we had opportunities to upgrade at the kiosk. we enjoyed our first 1st class trip fron san diego to philly.

  • southern illinois 0315 - April 27, 2009

    i once gave up my seat so that an older couple(one had a medical problem) could sit together....the attendant seeing that i did it out of the kindness of my heart, and that im a tall guy, out of the kindness of her heart, bumped me up front.....wow, was i pleased......never underestimate the power of human decency

  • miff - April 27, 2009

    Good on the family for making the best of a bump situation! My 'gripe' is not understanding why a flight which is still largely undersold (PHL to Venice) will not open up seats to be upgraded by a miles purchase! I have managed to secure an upgrade on the return flight three weeks after the initial (from Barcelona to PHL) - but no luck on the first leg. This just seems so unusual. I have been able to 'purchase' my transatlantic upgrades for the past eight or nine years way in advance. So, I can't figure the airline's reluctance at this juncture to not open the seats up for 'purchase' with miles (they certainly charge enough of them!). It's enough to make me want to switch my 'loyalty!'

  • Anne - April 27, 2009

    >>>How does the gate agent know if you are a frequent /loyalty flier thar may qulify for an available upgrade. What / where is the code o on your ticket?

  • Ali - April 27, 2009

    Up-grades are great, especially when totally unexpected as has happened four times in the four trips. In February and April my spouse and I used points to upgrade to Business Class to fly to Great Britain. When we checked in on-line, we were very surprised to see that we had been up-graded from Premium Economy to Business Class. We don't know why other than both times we were flying back to Canada it was mid-term break or Easter break and Economy was full. All we ever do is ensure we are dressed smartly and polite when we check-in. On occasion when I travel alone, I notice that I am often up-graded to the next class without asking. Don't know why but it is a treat and the extra points are lovely as well. Mind you I do travel with at least three teddy bears complete with their own passports which always seems to put a smile on everyone's face. Maybe that is the secret!

  • RayInHI - April 27, 2009

    I used to travel around the Pacific with a co-worker who got upgraded about twice as much as I did. His strategy was not to reserve a seat and then check in a the last possible moment. If by then coach was full, he got upgraded. Downside is that instead of an upgrade you may be stuck with the least desirable middle seat in coach

  • Wendy - April 27, 2009

    My advice for travel upgrades is: (1) Be genuine. (2) Treat everyone as an amazing person (3) Allow others to bless you in their service. OUR STORY: It was a cold spring day in 2007 when my husband and I were delayed in getting to the Paris airport. Our first taxi was stuck in a union parade, and our concierge had arranged for a second one. With not much time to spare, we kept a positive attitude by viewing the situation as an adventure. The consierge contacted the airlines to let them know we were on our way to the airport --hoping to catch the flight. When we arrived, the airlines had our bording passes ready. -- with first class service on the 2nd leg of our flight (Iceland to Minneapolis). Our upgrade was initiated somewhere between the concierge and the ticket counter attendant.

  • Marshall - April 27, 2009

    Yes, air travel in the USA is an absolute bargain, compared to the gouging of travellers in South Africa, especially on short flights. A 45 minute flight costs twice the amount of a 2 hour flight! Go figure... And, I have been treated extremely well by the personnel and crew of the airlines, with United standing way above the others.

  • Travelette - April 27, 2009

    Auburn, possibly you can find a travel publication interested in your story as you have several possible angles that an editor might consider - especially if you cover them in a factual way that can help others in the same situation. Depending on your child's ailment, there might also be publications devoted to that particular problem which would be interested in an article. Some possible topics: -the need for breaks and vacations when dealing with a chronically sick child -travel tips for parents traveling with a chronically sick child If the trip includes a visit to a specialist or a treatment center, that might also help you in your negotiations with the airlines and hotels. Good luck!

  • Keith - April 27, 2009

    Quite a few airlines (such as the SkyTeam alliance) now require a more expensive coach ticket to be able to qualify for use of your miles for an upgrade. That means having to spend more $$$ on a ticket just so I can use my miles for an upgrade! I think the best way to utilise frequent flyer miles is to save up and use them to purchase a long-haul business/first class ticket instead of getting an upgrade.

  • Kevin Evans - April 28, 2009

    I've been silver on a few airlines which entitles me to upgrades some of the time, but not very often. But the lady at the gate ultimately controls who gets upgraded and who doesn't, so I would simply strike up a conversation with her and ask for an upgrade! It worked many times...

  • Rebecca51 - April 28, 2009

    I am an RN. On the way to France a woman became ill just minutes before landing. Since the illness was not an emergency, I offered to stay with the lady until the everyone had deplaned. We were met at the gate by medics. My staying with the lady took about 30 minutes of my time, but saved the airline a huge hassle with ambulances and customers missing their connections. Air France put my friend and I in First Class on the way home as a thank you. Trust me, the 30 minutes I took to help another person was totally worth it -- first class was wonderful.

  • karen NYC - April 28, 2009

    I have had some luck with free upgrades. Once I arrived for my (Virgin) upgraded business class seat early and pre boarded. As I was enjoying my preflight cocktail in my seat, a man boarded who had the same seat assignment. I was patient and quite, he was demanding and annoying. I am not sure if it was his tantrum or my good manners, but while I was escorted to first class I could still hear him shouting "how come she gets to go first class!" On another transatlantic trip home I arrived at the gate early and told the gate agent that I was so anxious that I would miss my flight that I barely got two hours of sleep the night before. I subtly said that if there were any opportunity for an upgraded or at least to be moved to an exit row seat, that I would truly appreciate it. My story was factual, I did look exhausted, and I did fly home first class! Sincerity and being polite can get you things!!!

  • deryk - April 28, 2009

    This entire discussion has been so informative for me. We're flying to Paris soon and I think I'd like to try some of the suggested ideas to get an upgrade, or vouchers or free flight for being bumped. It really seems to be the "natural thing" to do if we're frequent flyer participants and can accomodate someone else or use it to our own advantage.

  • Chris - April 28, 2009

    Does anyone else agree with me that there should be a separate part of the plane for people flying with small children? Flying to Orlando is a nightmare - I love kids, have 3 of my own, but I never let them kick anyone's seat or bother the person around them - if they were all either up front or in back, it would be so nice -

  • joycefnp - April 28, 2009

    Poor Jane! You have to be careful what you say online! I do think however if you get bumped, you deserve to be compensated well by the airline. We recently got upgraded to first class on TACA for no apparent reason. It was very nice, no complaints here!

  • Bruce in Iloilo - April 28, 2009

    Be a young girl traveling alone. My friend and his now 14-year-old daughter regularly fly between Japan and the US. She insists on taking a different flight from him because she is often upgraded. I am not sure how long this will last but I have heard that single women travelers are upgraded more regularly.

  • familystone - April 28, 2009

    I am a disabled middle-aged woman and don't know how much longer I have to live due to many serious health problems. I am thinking of traveling from Alabama to somewhere tropical for one last hoorah. Would you travelers out there advise me on whether I should go first class or business class instead of coach or should I fly coach and save my money for the destination? Do any of the airlines make special provisions for someone in my position? Any help will be greatly appreciated because this will probably be my last adventure and I am on a budget.

  • mightymike - April 29, 2009

    "greed is good" just ask any failed bank or s&l. You make more and more.....you give less and less....and then...boom....you go bankrupt or get bailed out by my Uncle Sam. When will we ever learn? Happy traveling! Don't forget your face masks if you do.

  • kiddo - April 29, 2009

    I agree with Chris regarding flights to Orlando We try to visit friends there and always have a plane full of kids no matter what time you try to fly. Very frustrating when there are good kids aboard and then those dreadful few that parents don't try to control. They seem to think that if they paid for a ticket they should be able to do whatever!!!! I am a parent and grandparent so kids are not foreign to me.

  • FF-IntheKnow - May 5, 2009

    karen NYC - April 28, 2009 ...... Virgin have NEVER offered a business class service

  • formeraa - May 5, 2009

    Overbooking is necessary in the airline industry because it is important to fill as many seats as possible. Some, like Jane, claim that the airlines are greedy. However, the truth is that airlines are NOT making money right now. If all of us paid twice as much for our tickets, I'm sure that the airlines would be happy to adopt a "no overbooking" policy. However, as long as we are paying less than it actually costs to transport us, I don't think there's much to complain about. Kudos to the poster whose plans were flexible! That's the whole point of overbooking compensation.

  • GrandeGringo - May 5, 2009

    Companion fares/Reward card for $50 regardless of the class....best thing I have found.

  • SHMUTZEE - May 5, 2009

    I've found that if you book a ticket through a partner airline - you will not be able to use mileage for upgrades. For instance i booked anf flew BA and wanted to use American miles for an upgrade but was told I can't do it.

  • howgoodiwas - May 7, 2009

    I am 6'7" have elite status in multiple airlines and have been Platinum Elite on at least one for the past 10 years, and I have NEVER been upgraded due to my size. I'd love to meet the agent that upgraded a party of 5 because one of them happened to be tall.

  • karen - May 8, 2009

    FF-IntheKnow - May 5, 2009...You are not in the know. Virgin's mid-price class is branded "Premium Economy." You should try it. You will find it identical to the US generic mid-price class that we call "business class." Additionally, Virgin provides seperior cabin service, even when you are in coach. It is my preferred airline when crossing the Atlantic. An added bonus is that you can transfer American Express Mebership Rewards points to Virgin's frequent Flyer program for free upgrades and/or tickets.

  • Sallie - May 18, 2009

    Chris, I wrote to airlines years ago suggesting that families with young childeren be grouped together. No response. And now we have to worry that cell phone use will be approved in air.

  • queenrosered - May 25, 2009

    Military? I see that noone else chose to answer your comment but I agree. Military vets (and spouses) should be given special consideration FIRST for seat upgrades! Especially those who served in combat.Hubby was wounded twice in Nam and is 100% VA disabled.(my disclaimer) So, it would be nice if the airlines gave them a little "extra courtesy"when they travel. Thanks for your service. :)

  • eager2 fly - May 27, 2009

    I love children...but not bumping into my seat. Wouldn't it be great if the children could play and burn off energy in the airport before boarding? I also agree with the needed curtesy for our servicemen and women...We will be taking our first flight for a medical missionary trip in July. It would be wonderful to be comfortable before the long month long work begins. Thanks for the good tips!

  • Sarah - May 29, 2009

    I was once bumped to first class travelling Toronto to Vancouver with two very small children, because we couldn't be seated together in coach. We are headed to Hawaii in a few days and I see the same problem on the seat assignment, is there some chance we will get bumped up or bumped off the flight?

  • connie - May 30, 2009

    i always check the seat map to see if the plane is crowded and also ask if it is overbooked at the phone reservation. then when i get to the airport i tell them i want to be bumped if needed. i do carryon which helps. also with delta and nwa you can get a month pass for the lounge for $90 and they can sometime get a upgrade. i travel a lot 112 countries and i need to go as cheap as possible

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