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Some Airlines Make Obese Passengers Buy Two Seats

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Editor's Note: This story was originally published on August 6, 2008. To see the most recent SmarterTravel articles on related topics, please click on any of the following links: airfare, Airfarewatchdog.com, David Landsel, Airfarewatchdog.com, fuel, legroom, taxes and fees.

You're paying more to travel, and not just for your plane ticket: Every pound counts as the number of carriers charging for all checked luggage racks up. So it stands to reason that the public might be wondering why the airlines don't charge passengers with significant overages of a more personal nature.

Southwest calls them "customers of size." Medical professionals would use the term "obese." Bloggers and message-board habitues use names that are a lot less polite.

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Many people assume that obese people are getting a free ride. But are they? Nearly all airlines keep it very quiet, but many have policies—informal or formal—in place to make sure that passengers of size carry their own weight.

It's a tricky business. In some corners—Canada, for instance—it just got trickier. A winter ruling barred Canadian airlines from discriminating against "clinically obese" customers. Southwest was successfully sued by a passenger who was told she needed to purchase a second seat after she had already boarded—too late, the ruling found. An ample Air France passenger won a case after citing humiliation at the hands of staff who wrapped packing tape around him in public to prove that he was too obese to sit one seat, forcing him to purchase another.

Here's the funny part about those lawsuits: At the time, both Southwest and Air France had actual policies in place for dealing with overweight passengers. Southwest's policy has been around for years. It states that if staff determine that the passenger will not fit in one seat, the passenger must purchase a second, the cost of which will be reimbursed if the flight is not full.

Air France's policy was more loose, urging passengers who knew that not having an empty seat next to them would be a problem, to handle it on their own in advance. As of this writing, Air France passengers "with a high body mass" are warned that if they do not purchase an extra seat their own, they may not be allowed to board. In the end, both airlines were punished for being up front with their customers, even if the execution of the policy perhaps needed work. This is, after all, a terrifically sensitive matter.

Perhaps that is why the topic, with many airlines, tends to be something along the lines of That-Which-We-Don't-Speak-Of. Call up a major carrier like United Airlines and ask what rules they have in place for dealing with the situation, and you'll hear a pregnant pause, followed by a terse "we have no policy."

American is more forthcoming, but hastens to emphasize that in no does it way require passengers to purchase two seats. Spokesman Tim Wagner does say that passengers whose weight exceeds 250 pounds should know that there are "possible limitations that could result in American not being able to accommodate them." He also states that the airline urges passengers to "recognize ahead of time that they may need to purchase two seats." He also cites the FAA regulation that all airlines adhere to—if you can't snap the seatbelt (after the extension is added, that is) you can't fly.

JetBlue doesn't mind taking a more straightforward stance. Spokesperson Alison Eshelman says that their policy requires larger customers who need an additional seat for their own comfort to buy one in advance. If they do not, and the crew cannot accommodate them, they will be required to buy the seat in any case, with no refunds. (However, Eshelman notes correctly that JetBlue does offer its passengers a little more wiggle room with their larger-than-average seat width on board the airline's A320 aircraft.)

But what of the growing awareness among the traveling public that it costs the airline more to transport an obese passenger than a passenger of average weight?

Those hoping for any type of joy in that department should sit on their hands. Delta's Susan Elliott states clearly that the airline "has no plans to implement any policy that discriminates against any of our passengers." Translation: This is one hot potato ain't nobody going to touch.

Here's a look at how a few different airlines deal with the "customer of size:"

  • Southwest: Passengers should plan on purchasing an extra seat or risk being asked to do so at the airport by staff. If the flight is not sold out, the passenger may claim a refund.
  • American: Passengers over 250 pounds should recognize that there may be limitations to the service that the airline can provide. However, it does not require that you purchase an extra seat automatically.
  • United: No policy whatsoever.
  • Midwest: Like Southwest, passengers are encouraged to know their needs in advance. If staff determine that two seats are required, the seat will be sold at the lowest possible fare, with a refund available if there is one or more open seats on the flight.
  • Air France: Passengers with "high body mass" may receive a 25 percent discount on an extra seat, knowing that if they choose to not buy the seat, they may risk not being able to fly.
  • JetBlue: You are required to buy a second seat, and there are no refunds.
  • Delta: The airline "works to accommodate" passengers with special needs. Upon request and availability, it will try to make sure the next seat is unoccupied. However, if the plane is full, you will most likely be asked to leave the flight and buy a second seat on the next available flight. (You can actually count on this being a fairly typical practice on most airlines.)

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(Editor's Note: This story was originally published on Airfarewatchdog.com, a sister site of SmarterTravel.com.)

 
 
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  • Lillian - November 24, 2008

    The standard airline seat is 17.2" wide. My keyboard is 18" wide The average width of office chair seat cushion: 20" The average theater seat width is 20" The average width of a seat in an economy car is 22" It is embarrassing for some that fit fine in their office chairs to be made to feel even bigger when losing almost 3" of normal sitting space. I would say that if the average airline seat was 19", there would be a lot less complaining. Perhaps they could switch out their seats to accommodate our variety of passengers. A Small, Large and XLarge Seating Chart. Then with the number of children that fill up the Small seats, it could balance out.

  • Monica - April 16, 2009

    They say this policy change is to make obese passengers more comfortable, but I know I would be more comfortable without crying babies on my flight and unsupervised children kicking my seat and pulling my hair over the top of my seat and people reclining their chairs in my face. Where will the fees stop. Do parents of crying or unruly children have to pay extra to supply the other passengers with ear pluggs or will there be family only and adult only flights? I think the airlines are getting out of control with all these fees because they can't manager their own bottom line.

  • amanda - April 18, 2009

    wow. I was going to make a comment but I believe monica has said it all.

  • Phil - April 18, 2009

    These airlines had better take a very close look at the recent changes to the ADAA...they could find themselves shelling out big bucks in discrimination suits!!!!!

  • Glenn - April 22, 2009

    I feel that Airline seats are on the small side to start with, isn't America known as the most Obese Nation? A better alternative would be to have one or two rows lose one seat, and replace it with a much wider seats to accomidate the bigger passengers, Everybody is different, and not going to fit into the same mold, I think if the airlines would put their customers first, in stead or making the purchase a second seat, which probably isn't in safe. I would think the airlines would attract more business, as being the more passenger friendly airline, and to not embarrass the passenger. Being penaliz, by paying double, where dose that money go to, and how will that help the problem?

  • giggerbag - April 23, 2009

    Well why cant they have 20% of the seating oversize seats, mixed in with regular seats. Show these seats on seating charts when you are buying a ticket. If none available try another flight or airline and so on! or start another airline called XLAir for us big people!!! no skinnys allowed or they have to pay extra!!!

  • flyondawall - May 27, 2009

    Wow, a huge percentage of Americans weigh more than 250lbs! That seems to be a big excuse for more money, because smaller adults don't get a discount. What, is there going to be a huge meat scale at the counter and we get charged by the pound??

  • flyondawall - May 27, 2009

    I once sat next to a large woman who tried to keep her huge arms within her space by wrapping her arms around chest. Unfortunately, every time she dozed off on this long flight, her arm would plop off into my lap. I felt really bad for her, seats were all taken. We ended up putting my large travel bag on the arm rest so that she could rest her arm on our "extention". The seats are inadequate in size for most travelers and it is unfair to charge large people more. What next? A dollar to use the restroom???

  • Concerned - June 8, 2009

    The article said, "it costs the airline more to transport an obese passenger than a passenger of average weight?" And just what is "average weight." It is obvious that the average weight of Americans is not identical with the average weight of models whose pictures adorn the tabloids. Let's see real, genuine customer service again, and provide larger seating with today's larger Americans in mind. If people have positive experiences flying on your airline, they will be more likely to seek it out again. You can do better than your competiton, can't you? Expand your service for expanding customers--it's a bigger deal than you may think.

  • Amazed - June 12, 2009

    I really want to thank all the commenters so far. I had an awful experience with United in April of this year -- I had no idea they had a new policy and was confronted before I got on the plane by the person at the boarding desk who told me publicly in front of everyone in the waiting area and with no evidence that I couldn't fit into a seat other than her visual judgement that I would have to buy another seat or be "left behind" if it turned out I couldn't fit in my seat. I was humiliated and angered by this treatment and have found little sympathy in the comments at most forums. I can (barely) fit into an airline seat, but it is horribly painful and uncomfortable. I do fit into my 19 inch office chair seat perfectly comfortably. I just spoke to Virgin America and they told me their seats are 19.7 inches on average, so I suggest everyone fly their airline and tell them that seat width and consideration for their passengers is why you're doing it (plus they seem to have incredible fares right now!) Maybe some of our homegrown airlines will get the message... Thank you all again for being human and humane in your comments -- I'm tired of being treated like a monster just because I'm slightly larger than average!

  • Brenda - September 16, 2009

    I scour all the sites looking for tha 19-20" seat. Whoever has one gets my business. I weigh 220 and am very uncomfortable in a 17+ seat. Too bad only certain airlines go to certain airports so you'r usually stuck. I would be very insulted to be treated badly by rude employees. No wonder travel is down on airlines if I have the time I will drive.

  • iljaru19 - October 10, 2009

    Is it fair for persons of weight to be overweight? This is a culture-bound syndrome which appeared over the last 50 years. The policy applies only to economy class, and if you do not fit in the economy class seat, you are unfair to others sitting near you by refusing to buy another seat. Arguing for larger seats would effectively raise the prices for all customers. And since obesity is a result of multipe life-choices, it is unfair for others to pay for my problems. (by the way I am 310lbs).

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