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Northwest Pilots Appeal License Suspension

Posted on November 5, 2009 at 3:38 pm ET by Carl Unger, SmarterTravel.com Staff
Photo: Northwest Airlines

As expected, the pilots who overshot Minneapolis St. Paul International Airport by 150 miles last month have appealed the suspension of their licenses by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). Captain Timothy Cheney and First Officer Richard Cole may have to wait up to 120 days before the FAA makes a decision.

It's not yet clear what the FAA will do, but the agency doesn't seem to be in a lenient mood. "I think that this is a sign of a much bigger problem," FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt said. "I can't regulate professionalism. With everything we know about human factors, there are still those who just ignore the common sense rules of safety." Ouch.

In a related move, Senator Robert Menendez, a Democrat from New Jersey, introduced a bill that would ban electronic devices such as laptops from the cockpit. This bill seems sort of reactionary to me, as the use of laptops and most electronic devices in the cockpit is already prohibited by the FAA and individual airlines' policies.

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Readers, do you think the pilots deserve a second chance? Obviously they made a huge (and still inexplicable) mistake, but they're both very experienced pilots with otherwise clean records. Share your thoughts below. Thanks!

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I believe these guys should lose their license to fly commercial jets full of passengers. They put many lives at risk by being complacent. Regardless of whether laptops (PDAs, cell phones, etc) are allowed inthe cokpit. As passengers, when we board a commercial airliner we rely on the individuals at the controls of that aircraft - with the assistance of our nation's ATC staff - to get us safely to our destination. Had there been any injuries or a crash would anyone even be CONSIDERING a second chance?

I don't think these guys should lose their ability to fly completely. If they want to be private pilots or cargo pilots I think that is okay. But they should not be allowed to fly commercial airliners anymore. This is a one strike you're out kind of deal as far as I am concerned.
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ckm wrote:
does "suspension" mean temporary withholding of the privilege of holding a license? if so, they're getting a 2nd chance. if it means revoking their licenses, well, too bad. do you want to let them try over until they kill someone?
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I believe everyone deserves a second chance, however they were responsible for many lives and I think the laptop took the thought of a second chance away. If I would have been on that plane I'd really
have been angry. Just think of missed reservations,family cares and
just the thought of running out of fuel.
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Look at it this way: Imagine it was the Hudson River.

No thanks, fellas!
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No Way. No second chances for those A-holes. They can sit at a desk and surf those p___ sites all day long if they want. That doesn't endanger a plane full of passengers that EXPECT that their pilots will get them to their destination safely. They should be ashamed of themselves. Any commercial pilot that supports that should get "extra training" on the negative effects of negligence!

There are 10 better pilots just waiting for the opportunity to fly for a major airline. They get paid too much to screw around. Period.
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When we board commercial airliners, we pay for certain basic expectations. First, and foremost, we should be able to expect 100% professionalism regarding our safety. We are totally at the mercy of the "drivers" and as such there is absolutely no excuse for what happened. Neither of them should have the opportunity to put a single additional passenger in potential harms way. Did they need to kill someone first?
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Not just NO, but HELL NO!
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Texan wrote:
yes-they are only human...they do not deserve to loose their license.
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Scotty wrote:
They should not be allowed to fly again, they obviously deviated from their flight plan by overshooting the airport and were not in communication with the ground. What if they had flown into another flights airspace were they relying on ground controllers to keep them from having a mid air collision.
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khalil wrote:
There is little question that we have all received second chances to correct mistakes; whether or not we deserved them - that's another question. The question that has still gone unanswered is what really happened that caused the overflight, and one that must be answered fully addressed before resolving the appeal and the question of second chances. When the full story has been presented, and considering the pilots' otherwise clean record, then their appeal should be seriously considered. A second, and even more serious question, might be "Why are pilots ignoring FAA regulations regarding the use of laptops in the cockpit?" There must have been a reason for these regulations. Was it because their use contributes to the neglect of passenger safety? Perhaps all pilots should be given a second chance to adhere to established safety guidelines. Had these guidelines been followed in this case, perhaps the overflight might have been avoided.
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