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No Joke: Ryanair Really Wants to Charge for Toilets

Posted on June 4, 2009 at 12:39 pm ET by Carl Unger, SmarterTravel.com Staff
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Considering we've been down this road before, and taking into account Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary's reputation as the walking embodiment of "there's no such thing as bad press," I'm withholding a scrap of hope that what I'm about to type is some sort of PR stunt—but I don't think it is:

Ryanair actually plans to charge passengers to use the bathroom.

The Guardian is reporting that O'Leary has asked Boeing "to look at putting credit card readers on toilet locks for new aircraft." He also wants to remove two of the three bathrooms on his airline's aircraft and replace those bathrooms with up to six seats.

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Here it is, straight from the horse's mouth: "We are flying aircraft on an average flight time of one hour around Europe. What the hell do we need three toilets for? ... It's not because we need to generate money from the jacks. But ... if you get rid of two [toilets] you can get six seats on a 737. They will all be scurrying to the toilet before the departure gate."

To be fair, I can see his point. Ryanair essentially acts as a bus service in the sky, and can reasonably expect passengers to cross their legs while onboard or, as O'Leary put it, scurry to the loo in the airport before departure. And after all, your average bus only has one bathroom, which is usually adequate. Of course, your average 737 carries three times as many passengers as your average long-distance bus.

Still, no matter how you try to justify it, there's just something a bit underhanded about charging to use the bathroom. Imagine you weren't feeling well or had a sudden bout of air sickness and rushed off to the bathroom only to find you have to pay for the privilege of using the lavatory. Or imagine you're flying with a baby and you need to change a diaper. Or imagine you simply had a big cup of coffee at the airport—you get the idea.

Ah, but Mr. O'Leary has already thought about all that. Here's what he had to say: "All this pious stuff about ... you can't charge for entering the toilet. All right then, we'll charge you to exit the toilets."

I guess there's no such thing as bad press. After all, Ryanair just got itself 400 words in this space, free of charge. But open disdain for your customers? I can't imagine that's ever a good thing—not when it comes to publicity, and certainly never when it comes to policy.

Readers, what do you think? Is Ryanair serious about charging for bathrooms, or is this just a warped PR stunt? And what about O'Leary? Is he simply giving voice to what all airline CEOs think but are afraid to say aloud? Leave a comment below with your thoughts.

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  • cruisehead - June 5, 2009

    Ryanair has been talking about this for months now and I think they are serious about it. It's absurd, but they'll probably try it just to see what happens. If it doesn't generate a loss for them, I'm afraid others will follow suit. We already pay for the priviledge of allowing airlines to lose our luggage.....JMO.

  • Jaybird248 - June 5, 2009

    It's a PR stunt. The key is having Boeing "look at" installing card readers. When they're told to actually DO it, let us know.

  • Carl Unger, SmarterTravel - June 5, 2009

    Jaybird248 - I agree. That's the glimmer of hope right there. However, I think the plan to remove bathrooms is closer to being concrete. Short of some law requiring a certain number of bathrooms per plane, I don't really see anything stopping Ryanair from doing this.

  • desktraveler - June 5, 2009

    I've flown 5 hour flights on 737's with only 2 bathrooms for 140 people. Sure there are line-ups, but it's never horrendous, so I can agree 1 bathroom for a 1-hour flight seems OK. But, if it's a brutal flight or two people REALLY need the toilet? At least with two bathrooms, someone who's occupied for a long time doesn't keep everyone else from accessing the toilet for the majority of the flight.

  • glffy - June 5, 2009

    One toilet for 100+ people? What happens if the one hour flight turns into two hours waiting to take off and an extra hour in the air because of weather?

  • Rich - June 5, 2009

    I wouldn't fly on Ryanair to begin with. You get what you pay for.

  • Ed N. - June 5, 2009

    By coincidence today, it was reported on the local airwaves in Portland that there is a sign behind the toilet in a men's loo at Oregon Health & Science University that reads: "Recycled water; do not drink". Thank will be next with Ryanair, you betcha.

  • DesertCharlie - June 5, 2009

    15years ago people laughed when they were told that you would have to but your meals on a flight so what do you expect? Unless the FAA requires lavatories, they can do (or charge) whatever they want.

  • LJ

    I agree with Rich; they can keep it, I wouldn't fly Ryanair even if I had to walk.

  • GatorLaurie13 - June 5, 2009

    The charges will last until someone vomits, urinates or defecates outside the door because they don't want to pay to use the toilet. I think it's absolutely ludicrous the fees that airlines are charging. I would not even think to bring a credit card with me to the restroom - just crazy.

  • Bunny - June 7, 2009

    This exhibits an absolutely go-to-hell attitude toward Ryanair's customers! I can't imagine they will have any left if they implement this policy! I HAVE been on flights that are severely delayed on take-off and that take longer to reach destination than planned. Passengers are usually not allowed to deplane when take-off is delayed. Then, the toilets DO get heavy use. The whole idea of charging to use the loo is ridiculous!

  • Cal - June 8, 2009

    Obviously OLeary is a greedy ass and has no concern with client comforts. As Rich said......

  • Yerfdog - June 8, 2009

    What would happen if the airline start charging the passengers when they leave the restroom, a woman forgets her purse when she goes to the bathroom and gets locked in the restroom because she does not have any change to pay for it, and no one else can use that restroom for the rest of the flight.

  • Peter B - June 8, 2009

    After an especially brutal flight many years ago ("non-stop" from SFO to LHR stopped to refuel in Edmondon, where the runway was not long enough for a full 747), our daughter threw up as it finally landed. My wife was happy to leave the mess behind! I suspect this may happen much more often if this idea becomes reality.

  • CCG - June 8, 2009

    Not sure I agree with this, but it would be nice if people would use the very available, spacious bathrooms inside the airport terminals before they boarded the plane. If this was the case, you wouldn't have so many people jumping up as soon as the seat belt light goes out.

  • gunner2mc - June 8, 2009

    I hate to mention this but it could be a disaster IF the person had a bout with diarrhea; and it is conceivable!

  • mwgor - June 8, 2009

    I can see they will put in an auction system for toilet. The one who bid the highest gets to go first. They should make money by charging for toilet papers. A quarter a sheet.

  • canadjineh - June 8, 2009

    I agree that it seems somewhat petty, but Ryanair is just running a bus service. I don't think there would be that many occassions for diarrhea as it's not like a flight returning from PNG or Central Asia or the middle of the African continent with passengers who may have contacted "something." It's mainly cheap group trips to football matches in some other European country. For goodness sakes, use the airport restrooms (you have to sit in the boarding area for an hour or two anyhow).

  • Boraxo - June 12, 2009

    It is hard to believe you have readers who endorse this course of action. They better hope they don't get montezuma's revenge on their next trip to the mediterranean. This is not really a very bright idea when you consider the nature of the flights. Lots of footballers drinking up - if there aren't sufficient bathrooms they'll be urinating in bottles in their seats. And the cabin won't be too pleasant with all those infants that need diaper changes (not to mention the wet seats from kids that needed to go poddy). Sadly it is this type of stupidity that invites government regulation - just like carriers that hold their passengers hostage for 9 hours during thunderstorms.

  • happyslapper - June 16, 2009

    Unlike his aircraft O'Leary is full of it. I prefer to fly with a better class of scum with his competitors TUI, BMIBaby, Air Berlin, JET2, Easy Jet, etc etc

  • ks - June 16, 2009

    Why don't they just put a 1 Euro surcharge on all tickets for such things and just have it be part of the ticket price and stop nickel & diming people...

  • Rich - June 16, 2009

    Because if they put a 1 Euro surcharge on the Ryanair ticket then travelers would buy a ticket from another airline in that market that was 1 Euro cheaper!!!!!!!!!!

  • retireandgo -June 17, 2009

    Just raising the price of a ticket a couple of euro would certainly be better than this nickle-and-diming attitude. It's like EasyJet charging to be able to board before others, but there are no first-class seats anyway! While other airlines simply do a first-come-first-served deal where the earliest person to order a ticket and print a boarding pass gets on first with no extra charge. And other airlines allow a person to choose a seat when they book the flight. It seems that the price-cutting comes with other costs, not necessarily monetary but inconvenient in other ways.

  • JB - July 7, 2009

    What happens if the plane is delayed on the ground for 8 hours?

  • The advisor - October 19, 2009

    I feel all these air line CEO keep putting surcharges on people who use there airlines.Then we should not fly there airlines, boycot them put them "OUT OF BUSINESS " we do not need all these airlines. Like one of the comments Ilike! "I wouldn't fly on Ryanair to begin with. You get what you pay for." YES JUNK!!

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